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Banning red light cameras?? 
1st-Feb-2007 08:34 am
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Just wondering what everyone here thought about this article:

Marietta rep wants to ban red light cameras

Personally, my favorite line is when he mentions we have a Constitutional right to face our accusers. Sure, but I also have a right to not be slammed into by a car running a red light. If the regular police aren't going to do anything about people running them (I have been at intersections in Cobb County twice when a police car has been at the front of the line of cars when a car from another direction has run the light and the cops didn't even give the car a second look), then wouldn't it be a good idea to have some other system that will punish people for doing it? Otherwise, why have laws about red lights at all?

I also had to scratch my head at the reasoning that fender-benders increasing so therefore we should get rid of the cameras. I didn't grow up in Georgia, so I didn't learn how to drive here, but where I learned how to drive they specifically taught us that seeing the light turn yellow was cause for stepping on the brake pedal, not the accelerator. I think it says something (something bad) about the culture of driving here when is expected that not only the first car will go through the yellow light, but also the second. Maybe having red light cameras at all intersections would actually help (eventually) prevent accidents because it would teach people to quit reading their newspapers while going down the road and actually look at what's going on around them.

I understand that sometimes people get tickets from red light cameras that don't deserve them. Some people going the speed limit get speeding tickets from actual human police officers. No system is perfect all of the time. I know for a fact, though (because I drive through it almost every work day) that the intersection of Cobb Parkway and Windy Hill has far fewer people running red lights now that they have a camera there. And that's a good thing.
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1st-Feb-2007 01:40 pm (UTC)
I'm all in favor of getting rid of the damned things.
1st-Feb-2007 01:53 pm (UTC)
Me too.

My chances of being hit by someone running a red light as the same (if not smaller) as someone hitting me from behind when I stop at the same red light.

Also, the camera doesn't stop anyone from running a red light - it just punishes them for it. Knowing it's there psychologically might stop a few people, but obviously people are going to continue running red lights - otherwise, what is the point of actually having the camera turned on?

I can see your point because it simply enforces the law, but I'm not in favor of the nanny-system type of camera enforcement no matter what service it performs. Human interaction is imperitive when it comes to handing out tickets and fines to citizens.
1st-Feb-2007 01:54 pm (UTC)
are* the same

typo.
1st-Feb-2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
wow. A marietta republican doing something I agree with?
Screw the nanny state. And regardless of your personal opinions on whether or not you think the claim they cause more rear end collisions is false, there's data to back it up. All they are is a money grab for the cities that implement them.
good riddance.
1st-Feb-2007 02:12 pm (UTC)
I didn't claim that there weren't more rear-end collisions at lights that have red light cameras, I claimed that you shouldn't blame the camera for thatof. It's the fault of the driver following too closely.
1st-Feb-2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
But you're advocating a system that's going to cause more of that, period.
But that's not even the main problem for me. It's our downward slide into a nanny state where every move is watched and regulated. Fuck that noise. If I wanted that sort of hell I'd move to London. People that can't see this is part of that progression are sadly deluding themselves.
1st-Feb-2007 02:22 pm (UTC)
Okay.
1st-Feb-2007 02:15 pm (UTC)
"Sure, but I also have a right to not be slammed into by a car running a red light"

See, the trouble is that the car that runs a light that late and hits you probably has a driver that's so inattentive he or she could care less that there's a camera.

Traffic light cameras only "scare" the attentive drivers and function almost solely as revenur collection devices. The drivers that actually cause serious problems are the ones that aren't affected.

It's the same thing with gun control, really. Lawbreakers break laws, throwing more at them doesn't do a damned thing.
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